If the Roman Catholic Church is Mystery Babylon, then how…
Posted on January 30, 2010
Filed Under Ephraim (Multitude of Nations), Faith, Last Days, Two House (Reality) Theology
…can 10-Israel and Jew-dah truly flee from the Roman Catholic Church (or Rome) at the time of her destruction… if they don’t live within her? If they really lived in the midst of the RCC, then they could flee from her, but that is the point. They don’t live within any real dominion of the RCC.
Jeremiah 50 clearly portrays a context that Israel and Judah are both in Babylon’s midst during the time of her destruction, then they go weeping together… looking for a way to return to the Promised Land.
So… does it not seem more logical that they would flee from “a nation” or “empire” that has been destroyed, not just a religious system? A nation that is well-known for hosting, at least one of the two groups (i.e. Jewdah, the Jews)?
Granted, the Vatican is like a nation unto itself within Italy, and it even has a sprinkling of Jews who live there, but those are trivial realities in comparison to the many other prophetic traits of End-Time Babylon… where the United States of America more convincingly fits (at least currently). See Traits of End-Time Babylon for more details.
Outside of the modern nation of Israel, the USA hosts the largest population of Jews on the planet. The USA also hosts a huge mixed population that represents the hidden House of Joseph (10-Israel). Jew-dah and 10-Israel are in other nations also, but that isn’t the point. They WILL be significantly represented within Mystery Babylon.
Note: I do believe the RCC is a significant force in the Babylons (of both America and Europe), but the RCC itself can not exclusively represent any Babylon on its own accord (in my view).
Feel free to convince me otherwise. I’m open to hearing your thoughts.
Lila tov,
Hanok
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Right on Hanok! =)
I know ppl will just believe what they want to believe but how do you let some one know tht USA IS MB of Rev. and Babylon of Jer.? Americans are sooooo BIG-Headed when it comes to telling them there is NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO PRE-trib rapture or tht USA is Mystery Babylon. Love your views and agree with all of them. Now if you can tell me why I feel uncomfortable spiritually for worshipping on Sunday, you get a prize! Thank you and keep up the great posts!
PS, how can one tell if they have 10-Israel or Judaic blood running through their veins?
Honestly, I feverishly resisted the “America is Babylon” view for a long time… because the “RCC is Babylon” view was deeply embedded in my religious psyche… not to mention the American big-headedness that you mentioned… which I also was quite sick from. Ultimately, Tim McHyde, R. A. Coombes, and a few others help convince me otherwise.
How can one tell if he/she is a blood 10-Israelite or blood Jew? Well, that is a very complex and controversial topic… some of which is tangled up in semantics or phraseology. For instance, the founder of FamilyTreeDNA will basically say that scientists can’t truly tell if a person is genetically Jewish, but they can tell if a person has Jewish ancestors. That issue in particular basically comes from their view that many non-Israelites married into the faith of Judaism at various times and various places… and their genes were passed down to the current Jewish population (which happens to be very mixed and often resembles their non-Jewish host populations).
In my view, many of those so-called “non-Israelites” that married into and/or converted to Judaism over the last 2700 years, were in fact Ephraimites in various mixtures. For example, there is a huge population of Jewish men represented by y-Haplogroup R. This is a super-haplogroup I believe is directly descended from Ephraimite populations who “filled up” Europe, Central Asia, and India (by various migration routes). I go into much more detail about this here: Israelite and Noahic Haplogroup Hypotheses.
Thanks for the comments, Matthew!
Double check me on this I have not verified it. But, my understanding is the Roman Catholic Church has a small number of resident Jew’s within Vatican city. To maintain the prophecy of the remnant.
Only a remnant of Jews live there now. If Vatican City was destroyed, there would only be a remnant of a remnant to survive (likely less than a few handfuls I suspect). But where the USA is concerned, there is a myriad of Jews (surveys have estimated more than 5 million).
Not to mention the other realities… such as the USA having numerous deep-water sea ports, a consumer driven economy that would hurt the entire world if removed, and a military that is the defacto policeman of the world. Those and many other items can not possibly be attributed to the Vatican.
However, the Vatican does play a significant role in the religious system of the USA and the EU (not denying that)… and of course there are other RCC influences, such as politics, education, etc… some good (such as the pro-Life movement), and some not so good (pedophilia, paganism, etc).
Hi Tim…You are self creating a problem which is NOT a Problem..You ,Me does NOT have the Answers!! The word of God cannot be CONTROVERTED..Waiting and Patience will be our side. Glimpses are what you and me are SEEING…However the VIEL of Prophecy is rolling ..but in God’s pace and time! Making impatient COMMENTS have lead so many in the Wilderness of disappointments and heresy(Millerites,Rutherford,Smith and Young..etc..)JFA