1. 

   Hanok
   August 6th, 2011 - 22:21

   It seems like people are getting two very different things confused. There is in fact a physical, bloodline, genetic Israelite reality existing in the world today. BUT, that reality has nothing to do with “salvation” or citizenship within the Commonwealth of Israel. Many Israelites in antiquity, who were most certainly BLOODLINE Israelites, were banned from the commonwealth because of their wickedness. Korah’s rebellion is an excellent example. Then there were examples of non-bloodline Israelites who joined the camp and were happily welcomed in. Caleb and Ruth are excellent examples.

   From what I can tell, it seems like GLC has made a policy change of some sort, where they are essentially planning to dismiss or bypass the two-house reality in order to keep someone or some group or groups content. The two-house reality is a complex problem, but it is none-the-less a reality that Heaven and Hell and all us earth peeps are going to have to deal with one day and in one way or another. We can stick our heads in the sand and hide from the reality… or we can turn and face it… with all its complexity and problems… and start to deal with it… as adults. It is almost like we’ve been lied to for so long… that we would rather chose death than try to untangle the truth.

   Furthermore, I’ve listened to Eddie speak a ton over the years, and I’ve never heard him implicate that they should love Yeshua and love the Torah simply based upon their identity.

   In conclusion, I’ve never heard Eddie deal with the topic of “race”. There is no such thing as races… and there is NO such thing as an Israelite race. There is the ONE human race, who all descend ultimately from Adam via the bottleneck proxy of Noah’s family. Israelites and Edomites and all the rest are part of that ONE RACE! It just happens that most of the human race finds Abraham and Ephraim as a Common Ancestor. Many of them also find common ancestry else where TOO. That is how genealogy works, people. Deal with it.

   GLC needs to stop considering itself as the sheeple protectors… and instead just think of themselves as Truth-tellers or facilitators of the Truth. YHVH will take care of His sheep. I find myself wondering if GLC will start removing all their controversial topics to the point that they eventually have no programmers left.

   TRUTH is always controversial… for someone.
   Hanok ben-Isaak
2. 

   Steven
   August 7th, 2011 - 00:36

   My email:

   Hello.

   I am deeply disturbed by your removal of Eddie Chumney.

   Do you actually listen to any of his teachings, or are you going on hearsay? Based on your letter to him, releasing him of his program, it seems that you are going on hear-sa

   –with increasing frequency, we’ve been hearing from viewers and scholars (Christian, Messianic, and Ephraimite) who are expressing concern over the bloodline Ephraimite identity teachings which are taking the focus off of the Universal Kingdom of Heaven, and putting it, instead, on genealogy and racial identity issues.–

   One thing that I do know is that he most certainly does not teach what you accuse him of. If you would actually listen to the programs instead of taking people words for it, you would see this.

   Are you in the business of making people happy, or showing the truth? The truth is that Two-House (spiritually) is a reality, and it is extremely sound scripture-wise. The truth is going to make people mad. It always has. They killed Yeshua because of the truths that he taught. Now I am not comparing Eddie to Yeshua by any stretch of the imagination. All that I am saying is that haters are going to hate. The truth is always hard to hear, and it is always controversial. That is why you have to stand for truth, and never back down.

   There is no excuse for what has been done by your station.

   –Steven
3. 

   Pekka H
   August 7th, 2011 - 05:47

   Shavuah tovah!

   Personally Eddie Chumney’s Scriptural and clear Hebraic roots -teachings are very important to me because his website was the very first Hebraic roots website which I encountered when I begin to return to the roots.

   I understood right away that the issues which he teaches in his site are from the Truth. I was so amazed about all the insights and it felt too good to be true. Then I started to search for more Hebraic roots sites / connections and finally I found Jews & Joes and Truth2U, Wisdom in Torah etc too and I became more than blessed!

   I have seriously started to consider not to support the channel anymore because of the call to disputation and the recent false accusations. If they repent I would reconsider supporting them again. Of course GLC has right to do what they see best, but I don’t see any reason to remove Eddie from the channel. I don’t want to sound too controversial, but maybe these recent events are one sign about the on-going separation of the wheat from the tears in the Messianic / HR camp as well. There’s tears / leaven in every camp (Christian, Messianic / HR) and YHVH wants separate the teachers of the Truth from the ones who do not teach the Truth / who teach half-truths or error.

   Messianic / HR camp is NOT an exception. YHVH wants simply the BEST. Only He is able to make us white and pure in every way though the blood, the Spirit and the Torah of Messiah Yeshua.

   I didn’t find any thing in Eddie teaching which would be in severe conflict with the Torah and the whole Bible.

   As always, I don’t underline everything what teachers say. It is definitely impossible to have 100% consensus in everything until Messiah returns and teaches us the PURE Truth. I don’t mean that we could not find the Truth, but in any case we should continually seek for the Truth in every aspect of righteousness.

   I know that there are teacher(s) in GLC who don’t believe in the two house reality at all / in any form. In that sense removing brother Eddie from the channel was not surprise to me.
4. 

   Pekka H
   August 7th, 2011 - 13:23

   I said: “they don’t believe in two house reality at all / in any form”. I think that is misleading to say so. I a sorry. So, I would want to make few corrections.

   I meant that if I have understood some teacher(s) (who are teaching in GLC) right they don’t believe in two house reality as it is revealed in the Scriptures, but continue to teach the traditional (Christian) error regarding the small remnant from Joseph / Ephraim (10-Israel) which came back from Assyria to Israel has been already made one with the Jews (house of Judah) and this is the only real ethnic Hebrew / Israelite group of people (including all 12 tribes) which are known as Jews and there is no separate house of Joseph / Ephraim (10-Israel) among / mixed with the nations.

   Some teachers admit that Jews and Greeks will be made one new man in Yeshua Messiah, but as far as I know they don’t see Joseph / Ephraim having part in that. I don’t claim that all “Greeks” are Joseph / Ephraim, but I believe that many who they call “Greeks” are Joseph / Ephraim.

   As far as I know in addition to the Hellenic Jews in the Mediterranean countries in the first century there were still some 10-Israel “among the Greeks” as well in those countries and majority of 10-Israel were in the other countries around the world. The Jewish apostles could have been very well aware of them in those countries. No matter why James (Yakov) begins his letter by the following words:

   “Yakov, a servant of Elohim and of Adon Yeshua HaMashiach, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting.” (Yakov / James 1:1)

   How an earth the two houses / sticks could have been made one already thousands of years ago because according to Ezekiel 37:15-28 YHVH will make them one stick in the mountains of Israel in the future gathering of the faithful remnant of the 12 tribes (who follow Yeshua as the Messiah) back to the land.
5. 

   Sarah W.
   August 15th, 2011 - 13:53

   Tony Robinson sent this out with his latest Torah portion study, and I think it has never been explained in a clearer way:

   God’s Learning Channel

   I’m sure many of you have already caught wind of this. But let me give you a brief intro to the latest controversy. As many of you know I am a programmer at GLC and regularly appear on the station. Most of you also know Eddie Chumney, who is also a programmer on GLC. This past week, Amy Cooper, the General Manager of GLC canceled Eddie’s programs, claiming that Ephraimite bloodline identity teachings undergird his teachings. For those of you who may not understand what’s going on here it is in a nutshell.

   The Messianic movement is basically divided into two major groups. 1) Messianic Judaism and 2) “Two House” proponents. “Two Housers,” such as myself basically believe this. The kingdom of Israel, which was united under King Solomon, eventually split into two warring kingdoms, the Southern Kingdom of Judah and the Northern Kingdom of Israel. According to Jeremiah 31:31-34 and Ezekiel 37:15-23, the new covenant is made with the House of Judah and the House of Israel. Furthermore, one day, Adonai will re-unite the two kingdoms (along with any gentiles who are grafted in to the olive tree of Israel) through Messiah Yeshua. Unfortunately, Messianic Judaism teaches that the warring kingdoms were re-united after the Babylonian captivity, despite the fact that the reunification of the two houses is a job for the Messiah. The bottom line is that people who are saved are either 1) descendants from the southern kingdom of Judah or 2) descendants from the northern kingdom of Israel or 3) descendants from the non-Israelite gentiles. Seems easy enough right? Adonai does not forget His promises although man may. Well, Messianic Judaism hates this doctrine and have made it a point to fight our movement by mischaracterizing the “two house” movement. Basically, what they’ve done is taken some of the fringe MINORITY teachings from misinformed elements of the “two house” movement and labeled the entire movement as such. They basically say that we teach that you have to be a bloodline descendant in order to be saved. Of course, this is not true of myself, Eddie, nor any other major teacher within the messianic community. It would be similar to me saying that all Christians handle snakes on Sunday’s just because a few whacked out groups misinterpret the great commission in Mark 16. So, the bottom line is they falsely accuse us of teaching bloodline identity for salvation. Eddie has never taught this and I certainly don’t. Instead of dealing with the issue in a scholarly way, they prefer to falsely characterize the movement by painting us with a broad brush. In fact, they have been rather belligerent over the past few years, even threatening dis-fellowship to certain elements of their group who would even dare to mingle at “two house” convocations. This, despite the fact that myself and other “two house” teachers are very conciliatory and desirous to fellowship based on that which certainly unites us in Messiah. Instead they prefer to call us heretics, etc. Anyway, it’s just the enemy using them to keep the house divided. Below is a copy of the letter that was sent to Eddie by Amy Cooper of GLC. I’m sending it to you because Eddie has already posted it and made it public to his mailing group. He has requested that we “call GLC or write to Al and Tommie Cooper to repent of this injustice and to make things right.”

   You can read Eddie’s request here . . .

   http://www.watchmanofzion.com/
6. 

   Steven
   August 15th, 2011 - 16:13

   Matthew 5:11
   Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake.

   1 Peter 3:16
   Having a good conscience; that, whereas they speak evil of you, as of evildoers, they may be ashamed that falsely accuse your good conversation in Christ.
7. 

   Carol Crisafi
   August 17th, 2011 - 04:05

   This is what I sent to Al Cooper:

   Dear Mr. Cooper,

   I recently learned of GLC’s decision to cancel Eddie Chumney’s program due to his teachings of bloodline identities. It was stated: “we’ve been hearing from viewers and scholars (Christian, Messianic, and Ephraimite) who are expressing concern over the bloodline Ephraimite identity teachings which are taking the focus off of the Universal Kingdom of Heaven, and putting it, instead, on genealogy and racial identity issues.”

   My question to you is, why have you not investigated this yourself instead of believing these false accusations from people who want to cause discord? I know you didn’t investigate this because if you did, you would know that Eddie Chumney does not subscribe to this view! The fact is that he believes just as you do; that we are one body, all who are in Yeshua those natural and those grafted in.

   If we are to be wise in our judgments, then we must hear both sides and weigh things out. If we fail to do this, then we fall prey to deceivers and liars.

   I’m asking you to please reconsider what you have done and watch Eddie’s teachings and decide for yourself whether these rumors are true or not. But if you stand by your decision, Yahweh will use another medium for Eddie so that His Word can reach the world in spite of what you are doing.

   Shalom,
   Carol Crisafi
8. 

   Linda Watson
   September 27th, 2011 - 13:50

   Hello Al and Tommey,
   I am a Bible History teacher. I am presently retired. There are some things that I would like to discuss with you and I hope by the time I finish this letter you may consider my perspective.
   I have spent many years teaching where the tribes of Israel traveled and settled. There are many of us that have done that.

   First of all, I understand that identity of Israel has NOTHING to do with salvation. But there is A DIFFERENT REASON WHY YOU STUDY TO FIND OUT WHO THE TRIBES ARE AND WHERE THEY SETTLED.

   I believe we are moving closer to the end times. As we move closer it is critical for people to understand prophecy and the books of the prophets – especially Jeremiah, Hosea, Joel and Daniel. Yahweh gives us a command to WARN the people and if we do not then their blood will be on our hands. He will hold us responsible for not teaching them.

   When the average Christians reads the books of the prophets he does not apply any of those prophecies to his own life because he thinks the books APPLY ONLY TO THE JEWS. When the book of Jeremiah talks about Israel he thinks it only applies to the Jews. He does not understand THEIR ARE 12 TRIBES.

   How can we warn them if they do not understand they are one of the tribes of Israel and that Yahweh wants them to stop their backsliding and return to him? How can we teach people prophecy without telling them who the players are in the books? We have to identity the nations mentioned in Daniel, Jeremiah, and the other Books of the prophets so they know what G-d expects of them. Do we just want to leave them in the dark and have to go through the tribulation when they could be warned? The entire book of Hosea was written to Emphraim – so we do not tell the Ephraimites who they are so they can avoid the tribulation? The books of prophets are designed to span through the centuries. If you LIVED during the Civil war period or LIVED in Parthian Empire the books would apply to them as much as it does to us today. The people who are Christians need to know their identity so they can understand prophecy and prepare for their future.

   Understanding ones identity has nothing to do with salvation. WE ALL KNOW THAT. It has to do with warning people about what is coming at the end time.

   Christians today do not understand that it is speaking to them as a tribe of Jacob and that Yah wants them to repent and turn back to keeping his laws.
   Yah wants all to be saved. Before the end time the Christians in this country need to know who the peoples are in the books of the prophets. They need to know who is Gog and Magog and how prophecy applies to them. It is absolutely critical that this knowledge of Identity be passed to peoples of this nation. Each nation mentioned in the books of the prophets play a different role.
   Yahweh has opened a door for you to have a ministry. I pray you consider what I have written to you. Please let join together and try to help these people before it is too late.
9. 

   Joel Webb
   November 7th, 2011 - 18:38

   All the talk is Silly- There wont be anymore discussion when Eddie reveals the key to the Parables of Jesus. Eddie Chumney will unlock the parables on Dec 14th, from what I heard on facebook. The words of Jesus have been locked up for 2000 years but once you know the key that unlocks the parables, it makes all this discussion silly. Any child will be able to read it.
10. 

    Joel Webb
    November 7th, 2011 - 18:43

    I spoke to Eddie face to face and he asked me what I knew about Elijah. But Now just recently, The parables have been opened up to Eddie and everyone will be able to read things they never saw before.
11. 

    BBMeyer
    December 10th, 2011 - 09:15

    The above Joel Webb speaks falsely. He has entirely made up many personas on Facebook and is involved with Harold Camping, an infamous person that has nothing to do with Eddie Chumney. Anyone who knows Eddie’s work can see that Webb and his many identities (“friends” on facebook) have been working overtime to say that Eddie has some kind of revelation he is going to share on December 14, 2011. This is totally untrue.

    Webb has boasted of plagiarizing Eddie’s work, http://ja-jp.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=283326971678870&id=112479268763642

    And he’s got a boatload of personas: http://ja-jp.facebook.com/haroldcamping/posts/10150284483864731 Be sure to read under SEE MORE for his confession under MY HIGH TOWER.

    This is another attack from someone who does not want to see Eddie’s work go forward. I am amazed at what teachers like Eddie have to deal with. I’ve never seen anything like this level of attacks before. We need to step up prayer for our pastors, leaders and teachers.

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