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	<title>Comments on: Black Hebrews MORE original than Ashkenazi Jews?</title>
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		<title>By: Hiram Ben Yisrael</title>
		<link>http://jewsandjoes.com/blog/black-hebrews-more-original-than-ashkenazi-jews/#comment-7822</link>
		<dc:creator>Hiram Ben Yisrael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Apr 2012 02:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim,
Good stuff.  Please e-mail me at info@i4tk.com and elaborate on the &quot;USA being the military arm(established ab initio via the occult solely for this purpose&quot; statement.  Shalom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim,<br />
Good stuff.  Please e-mail me at <a href="mailto:info@i4tk.com">info@i4tk.com</a> and elaborate on the &#8220;USA being the military arm(established ab initio via the occult solely for this purpose&#8221; statement.  Shalom.</p>
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		<title>By: jim</title>
		<link>http://jewsandjoes.com/blog/black-hebrews-more-original-than-ashkenazi-jews/#comment-7561</link>
		<dc:creator>jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Apr 2012 04:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would seem that the non black brethrens in Yahushua need to enlarge their heart in order to appreciate the impact this recent awakening to their true heritage is having on the majority seed of Yisrael,the people of color, who have been(and are still being) trampled upon and dehumanised. For hundreds of years they have been oppressed,disdained, hated and killed all over the world from the Americas to India all the way to Australia, the likes of which has never happened to any other family of people.

 And those who are protected from the total mind control that exists in the world today,the implications are literally staggering. Because what would have happened, had not our ABBA promised that a remnant would be left? Total extermination? Cos while all other groups are hollering about African Americans and their short-comings(all rooted in our departure from YHWH&#039;s Torah), and Africans for their mythical&quot;backwardness&quot;, Satan and his agents have been hard at work,murdering unborn children and killing by poisoning,wars and starvation. 
The Vatican sits and serves as the spiritual centre for the control of all religions &amp; governments thru secret societies, USA being the military arm(established ab initio via the occult solely for this purpose), London as the financial centre(the base for the Crown Templars), the UN implements the wicked ideologies while Zionist Israel, Saudi Arabia and Islam keep the charade up in the middle east.And the rape of Africa continues unchecked. Really troublesome times ahed for us inhabitants of this planet cos satan the dragon who deceives the whole world knows his time is very short!
For us who believe on the saving Name of Yahushua, we say HALLELUYAH, for the Word of our ABBA is true and His wisdom unsearchable, for HE did promise Abraham, that HE will bless all the nations of the earth thru him.

 So, Yisrael has been in the land of captivity, that they may mingle the Seed, that the ordained fulness of the gentiles be come into the fold, that ALL Yisrael might be saved. Our prayer is that Yahweh cleanses and makes perfect the bride thru the set-apart Ruach, that the esteem of HIS sacred NAME shall fill the whole earth.  Shalom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would seem that the non black brethrens in Yahushua need to enlarge their heart in order to appreciate the impact this recent awakening to their true heritage is having on the majority seed of Yisrael,the people of color, who have been(and are still being) trampled upon and dehumanised. For hundreds of years they have been oppressed,disdained, hated and killed all over the world from the Americas to India all the way to Australia, the likes of which has never happened to any other family of people.</p>
<p> And those who are protected from the total mind control that exists in the world today,the implications are literally staggering. Because what would have happened, had not our ABBA promised that a remnant would be left? Total extermination? Cos while all other groups are hollering about African Americans and their short-comings(all rooted in our departure from YHWH&#8217;s Torah), and Africans for their mythical&#8221;backwardness&#8221;, Satan and his agents have been hard at work,murdering unborn children and killing by poisoning,wars and starvation.<br />
The Vatican sits and serves as the spiritual centre for the control of all religions &amp; governments thru secret societies, USA being the military arm(established ab initio via the occult solely for this purpose), London as the financial centre(the base for the Crown Templars), the UN implements the wicked ideologies while Zionist Israel, Saudi Arabia and Islam keep the charade up in the middle east.And the rape of Africa continues unchecked. Really troublesome times ahed for us inhabitants of this planet cos satan the dragon who deceives the whole world knows his time is very short!<br />
For us who believe on the saving Name of Yahushua, we say HALLELUYAH, for the Word of our ABBA is true and His wisdom unsearchable, for HE did promise Abraham, that HE will bless all the nations of the earth thru him.</p>
<p> So, Yisrael has been in the land of captivity, that they may mingle the Seed, that the ordained fulness of the gentiles be come into the fold, that ALL Yisrael might be saved. Our prayer is that Yahweh cleanses and makes perfect the bride thru the set-apart Ruach, that the esteem of HIS sacred NAME shall fill the whole earth.  Shalom.</p>
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		<title>By: russellivery</title>
		<link>http://jewsandjoes.com/blog/black-hebrews-more-original-than-ashkenazi-jews/#comment-7301</link>
		<dc:creator>russellivery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 03:07:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why Ashkenaz do not claim their Genesis 10:3-5 Gentile Heritage?</description>
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		<title>By: shawn stancil</title>
		<link>http://jewsandjoes.com/blog/black-hebrews-more-original-than-ashkenazi-jews/#comment-7244</link>
		<dc:creator>shawn stancil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 06:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>white supremacy is lie and it hath to end</description>
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		<title>By: shawn stancil</title>
		<link>http://jewsandjoes.com/blog/black-hebrews-more-original-than-ashkenazi-jews/#comment-7243</link>
		<dc:creator>shawn stancil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 06:04:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most white people who call them selves jews today are Edomites because they dont fit the prophecy and Deu 28 is mainly is talking about black americans sephardim tainos native american indians west indians. The original israelites were darkskin people but thru mixed we look like all nations we stand out among the other nations because we are on the bottom. small number of ashkenazis are israelites to overall stop the hate lets love.  thou shalt abhor an edomite he is thy brother</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most white people who call them selves jews today are Edomites because they dont fit the prophecy and Deu 28 is mainly is talking about black americans sephardim tainos native american indians west indians. The original israelites were darkskin people but thru mixed we look like all nations we stand out among the other nations because we are on the bottom. small number of ashkenazis are israelites to overall stop the hate lets love.  thou shalt abhor an edomite he is thy brother</p>
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		<title>By: shawn stancil</title>
		<link>http://jewsandjoes.com/blog/black-hebrews-more-original-than-ashkenazi-jews/#comment-7242</link>
		<dc:creator>shawn stancil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 05:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good morning took a dna test my haplogroup is e m96 which origin go back to southwest asia israel and as time went by my descendants was taking captivity by the romans who took us to rome then travel to the iberian peninsula then during the portuguese inquistion my ancestor went thru nigeria gulf of guinea then to latin america after virginia subclade is e1b1a7a which makes me of sephardim ancestry and on my coat of arms is a lion which represent judah they were black people. besides that yahudim come in all colors and goes to your forefathers we were scattered thru out the world for disobeying God laws</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good morning took a dna test my haplogroup is e m96 which origin go back to southwest asia israel and as time went by my descendants was taking captivity by the romans who took us to rome then travel to the iberian peninsula then during the portuguese inquistion my ancestor went thru nigeria gulf of guinea then to latin america after virginia subclade is e1b1a7a which makes me of sephardim ancestry and on my coat of arms is a lion which represent judah they were black people. besides that yahudim come in all colors and goes to your forefathers we were scattered thru out the world for disobeying God laws</p>
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		<title>By: shawn stancil</title>
		<link>http://jewsandjoes.com/blog/black-hebrews-more-original-than-ashkenazi-jews/#comment-7241</link>
		<dc:creator>shawn stancil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Feb 2012 05:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>all haplogroup e1b1a and e1b1b are israelites</description>
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		<title>By: avi choen</title>
		<link>http://jewsandjoes.com/blog/black-hebrews-more-original-than-ashkenazi-jews/#comment-7207</link>
		<dc:creator>avi choen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jan 2012 06:54:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok , so everyone here on this post are claiming to be a great researchers .
for one to know the truth one must go to the beginning of story ( since we can not go to the source!!!) 
Avraham made a covenant with god( alokim) , avraham Is the father of all jews period . ( from our Kabala and dead sea scrolls and from many jews who left there knowledge before jesus) avraham first son from hagar (his servant) Ismael is carrying avraham Y chromosome .

there for everyone in the arab world are linked to avraham.
and since in the Jewish religion we always go by the mom, issac was the first true jew and Aaron is a descended from Issac , so far so good i hope.

from 12 tribes not 10 we have Canaan,  those 12 tribes are represent by jacob 12 kids (in order of birth), Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zebulun, Joseph and Benjamin and yes joseph had to sons Mannasseh and Ephraim but lets stick to those one so we wont have Neyo Hanok ester scroll.

Now those tribes had flee canaan and scattered all over africa of today and europe as we know it , so you will find many non jews that carry the same Y chromosome that you hanok have mentioned, In black and white . as I fact anyone who live or has lived in canaan of the time wont be white and that that to location of the origin and the way the sun shine there ( which is 85% of the year if not even more ) so they with time would become darker skin people.


As for the Khazar empire im sure we can link them to avraham blood line but keep in mind we jewish people go by the mom . example :

Buggatti car is made from parts from England, Germany, Switzerland on a France land. and the car is not considered German ( even though VW own it) it considered France. same goes for jews 

all we know Is for fact that ashkenazi jews were formed for the first time around the 10 century . before that they weren&#039;t any askenazi people at all not to mention ashkenazi jews!!! 

So for the first question that ignited this whole pasha , original jews are darker skin and were mostly dark hair and eyes. 

and neyo---- yehusa/jesus is not the messiah ,cause if he was, according to the Jewish religion all the dead will be alive and gogo magog had happened already.

and as far as my credentials , from the same scholars  that have been mentioned here from both sides of the scale from the Jewish side and from the non Jewish side . anyone that can be verified with more then 3 sources at his time of writing, since we know that history is writing by the hands of the winners .





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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok , so everyone here on this post are claiming to be a great researchers .<br />
for one to know the truth one must go to the beginning of story ( since we can not go to the source!!!)<br />
Avraham made a covenant with god( alokim) , avraham Is the father of all jews period . ( from our Kabala and dead sea scrolls and from many jews who left there knowledge before jesus) avraham first son from hagar (his servant) Ismael is carrying avraham Y chromosome .</p>
<p>there for everyone in the arab world are linked to avraham.<br />
and since in the Jewish religion we always go by the mom, issac was the first true jew and Aaron is a descended from Issac , so far so good i hope.</p>
<p>from 12 tribes not 10 we have Canaan,  those 12 tribes are represent by jacob 12 kids (in order of birth), Reuben, Simeon, Levi, Judah, Dan, Naphtali, Gad, Asher, Issachar, Zebulun, Joseph and Benjamin and yes joseph had to sons Mannasseh and Ephraim but lets stick to those one so we wont have Neyo Hanok ester scroll.</p>
<p>Now those tribes had flee canaan and scattered all over africa of today and europe as we know it , so you will find many non jews that carry the same Y chromosome that you hanok have mentioned, In black and white . as I fact anyone who live or has lived in canaan of the time wont be white and that that to location of the origin and the way the sun shine there ( which is 85% of the year if not even more ) so they with time would become darker skin people.</p>
<p>As for the Khazar empire im sure we can link them to avraham blood line but keep in mind we jewish people go by the mom . example :</p>
<p>Buggatti car is made from parts from England, Germany, Switzerland on a France land. and the car is not considered German ( even though VW own it) it considered France. same goes for jews </p>
<p>all we know Is for fact that ashkenazi jews were formed for the first time around the 10 century . before that they weren&#8217;t any askenazi people at all not to mention ashkenazi jews!!! </p>
<p>So for the first question that ignited this whole pasha , original jews are darker skin and were mostly dark hair and eyes. </p>
<p>and neyo&#8212;- yehusa/jesus is not the messiah ,cause if he was, according to the Jewish religion all the dead will be alive and gogo magog had happened already.</p>
<p>and as far as my credentials , from the same scholars  that have been mentioned here from both sides of the scale from the Jewish side and from the non Jewish side . anyone that can be verified with more then 3 sources at his time of writing, since we know that history is writing by the hands of the winners .</p>
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		<title>By: Hanok</title>
		<link>http://jewsandjoes.com/blog/black-hebrews-more-original-than-ashkenazi-jews/#comment-7190</link>
		<dc:creator>Hanok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 06:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neandertal admixture: why I remain skeptical
http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2011/12/neandertal-admixture-why-i-remain.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neandertal admixture: why I remain skeptical<br />
<a href="http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2011/12/neandertal-admixture-why-i-remain.html" rel="nofollow">http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2011/12/neandertal-admixture-why-i-remain.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Hanok</title>
		<link>http://jewsandjoes.com/blog/black-hebrews-more-original-than-ashkenazi-jews/#comment-7189</link>
		<dc:creator>Hanok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jan 2012 06:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Almost all of you have Ephraimite and/or Jewish and/or a myriad of other ethnic ancestries... and none of it has a dang thing to do with your skin color(s) or other physical features.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Almost all of you have Ephraimite and/or Jewish and/or a myriad of other ethnic ancestries&#8230; and none of it has a dang thing to do with your skin color(s) or other physical features.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuckie</title>
		<link>http://jewsandjoes.com/blog/black-hebrews-more-original-than-ashkenazi-jews/#comment-7186</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuckie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My comment is this, we can prove that ysrael is not on the paternal side mixed because the seed is only passed from father to son! &amp; the peternal side only makes you a ysraelite as stated in the scriptures. Now what we do know is that everybody on earth has neanderthal dna except modern hue-mans which is only every male in Africa! Africans have not mingled his seed with other beings! This sounds like genesis to me the sons of god took daughters of men &amp; had children with them making abombinations on the earth! Science has proven this fact out &amp; now the world will start to realize that the only humanity that whites have is through our women &amp; that&#039;s why askenazi state that it&#039;s who your mother is that makes you a jew but scriptures state that the seed of David will be the prophet to lead his chosen people like Moses did! That&#039;s what scripture states also it states that ysrael will never wax pale meaning be white! To be white in scripture is a curse! If anybody says otherwise they like scriptures say speaks with their own heart not the word of The Most High!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My comment is this, we can prove that ysrael is not on the paternal side mixed because the seed is only passed from father to son! &amp; the peternal side only makes you a ysraelite as stated in the scriptures. Now what we do know is that everybody on earth has neanderthal dna except modern hue-mans which is only every male in Africa! Africans have not mingled his seed with other beings! This sounds like genesis to me the sons of god took daughters of men &amp; had children with them making abombinations on the earth! Science has proven this fact out &amp; now the world will start to realize that the only humanity that whites have is through our women &amp; that&#8217;s why askenazi state that it&#8217;s who your mother is that makes you a jew but scriptures state that the seed of David will be the prophet to lead his chosen people like Moses did! That&#8217;s what scripture states also it states that ysrael will never wax pale meaning be white! To be white in scripture is a curse! If anybody says otherwise they like scriptures say speaks with their own heart not the word of The Most High!</p>
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		<title>By: Hiram Ben Yisrael</title>
		<link>http://jewsandjoes.com/blog/black-hebrews-more-original-than-ashkenazi-jews/#comment-7180</link>
		<dc:creator>Hiram Ben Yisrael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2011 02:14:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a question about &quot;genetic evidence&quot; of Israelite ancestry.  Did somebody dig up remains of ancient Israelite graves and obtain a large enough sampling of body remains to determine the DNA make-up of the people of that region?  Furthermore, is it these samples that the &quot;genetic evidence&quot; is taken from?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a question about &#8220;genetic evidence&#8221; of Israelite ancestry.  Did somebody dig up remains of ancient Israelite graves and obtain a large enough sampling of body remains to determine the DNA make-up of the people of that region?  Furthermore, is it these samples that the &#8220;genetic evidence&#8221; is taken from?</p>
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		<title>By: Hanok</title>
		<link>http://jewsandjoes.com/blog/black-hebrews-more-original-than-ashkenazi-jews/#comment-7178</link>
		<dc:creator>Hanok</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 18:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is a load of non-sense, Chuckie. There could be and are multiple haplotypes associated with every person who lived 4 thousand years ago.  Have you seen evidence presented for Neanderthal DNA? If so, can you please cite the source?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a load of non-sense, Chuckie. There could be and are multiple haplotypes associated with every person who lived 4 thousand years ago.  Have you seen evidence presented for Neanderthal DNA? If so, can you please cite the source?</p>
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		<title>By: Chuckie</title>
		<link>http://jewsandjoes.com/blog/black-hebrews-more-original-than-ashkenazi-jews/#comment-7177</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuckie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Dec 2011 06:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s one thing we know for sure &amp; that&#039;s who ever Abraham was, his descendants male ancestry is whatever haplotype he was! So there is a difference of race! We now know through genetics that Neanderthal male line mixed with African woman &amp; African males didn&#039;t mix with female Neanderthal.   So we can&#039;t be all related. We should accept this fact &amp; live &amp; let live</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s one thing we know for sure &amp; that&#8217;s who ever Abraham was, his descendants male ancestry is whatever haplotype he was! So there is a difference of race! We now know through genetics that Neanderthal male line mixed with African woman &amp; African males didn&#8217;t mix with female Neanderthal.   So we can&#8217;t be all related. We should accept this fact &amp; live &amp; let live</p>
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		<title>By: Hiram Ben Yisrael</title>
		<link>http://jewsandjoes.com/blog/black-hebrews-more-original-than-ashkenazi-jews/#comment-7143</link>
		<dc:creator>Hiram Ben Yisrael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2011 03:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean,

I too appreciate your input.  Please check out the following links:

https://wakeupisraelites.wordpress.com/2011/10/08/isnt-being-in-the-messiah-the-only-thing-that-matters/

https://wakeupisraelites.wordpress.com/2011/10/08/what-difference-does-it-make/

Yahuah bless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean,</p>
<p>I too appreciate your input.  Please check out the following links:</p>
<p><a href="https://wakeupisraelites.wordpress.com/2011/10/08/isnt-being-in-the-messiah-the-only-thing-that-matters/" rel="nofollow">https://wakeupisraelites.wordpress.com/2011/10/08/isnt-being-in-the-messiah-the-only-thing-that-matters/</a></p>
<p><a href="https://wakeupisraelites.wordpress.com/2011/10/08/what-difference-does-it-make/" rel="nofollow">https://wakeupisraelites.wordpress.com/2011/10/08/what-difference-does-it-make/</a></p>
<p>Yahuah bless.</p>
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